Q1. Has there been any discussion of migraine on this newsgroup?
1a. If yes. Did anyone save it? If no. Thanks, no reply necessary.
1b. If yes. Could you please e-mail it or the address of authour to me?
Q2. Is there another newsgroup that might have discussed migraine or
headache?
2a. If yes. Please list in reply. If no. Thanks, no reply necessary.
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Al XB ac…@freenet.carleton.ca
Ottawa, Ont ub…@freenet.victoria.bc.ca
Article 37773 of misc.consumers.house:
From: EcoNet via Jym Dyer <j…@remarque.berkeley.edu>
Subject: INFO: "Toxic Infoline" Answers Questions About Household Toxics
Date: 12 Aug 1993 06:44:24 GMT
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
[From EcoNet NLNS Newsbriefs]
[Also Posted to alt.activism (by Somebody Else)]
Free Info on Household Toxics
Wondering why the dog got sick right after you used
roach spray on the kitchen floor? or whether the toilet cleaner
with the babbling brook on the label lives up to its gushing,
"environmentally friendly" promises? The answers to these and
other questions about household toxics are a free phone call
away. The Toxic Infoline, of the Natural Resources Defense
Council, is 1-800/648-NRDC (in New York State, 212/687-6862).
Article 8726 of misc.health.alternative:
From: t…@sw.stratus.com (Tarl Neustaedter)
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>In article <CBs2y6….@newsflash.concordia.ca>, grog…@cs.concordia.ca (Peter Grogono) writes:
>>> [scientific medicine vs alternative, astronomy replacing astrology]
>> There are several rather doubtful arguments here. Has astronomy "well and truly
>> replaced astrology"? There are more astrologers than astronomers; the best
>As an amateur astronomer, the concept of astrology competing with astronomy
>in today’s world rather takes my breath away.
>But the more I think about it, the analogy with alternative medicine is
>exact, and I thank you for pointing it out to me. It is an analogy I will
>>keep in mind for future discussions on alternative medicine. Both astrology
>and alternative medicines are systems of belief which rely on tradition
>rather than investigation, and are unfriendly to objective analysis.
>Astronomy and Medicine have historical roots in the older "disciplines",
>but have diffentiated themselves by attempting to measure, quantify, explain
>and predict behaviour in their fields of study. This has led them in far
>different directions than they started out from. In both fields (like all
>science), the sole standard of validity is how reliable and accurate the
>predictions are. In the predecessor fields, different standards apply, and
>thus don’t qualify as science.
There have been many studies performed by the medical community on
different aspects of alternative medicine. Fortunately, there are
many open-minded people in the medical community who are performing
experiments on remidies that have been around for thousands of years
rather than simply lumping it all together as quackery. It seems
fairly unscientific to jump to such conclusions.
I take solice in the fact that more and more hospitals are opening up
wellness clinics and giving classes in natural foods, meditation, yoga,
breathing techniques. As has already been mentioned several large
pharmaceutical firms are already spending big bucks investigating how
and why certain herbs work. Accupuncture and biofeedback has been
used in the U.S. medical community. Over the last 15 years, I have
literally met thousands of people who have been helped tremendously
by alternative medicine. (Of course, you might say "duped".) More
and more people are giving up on symptom-relieving drugs produced by
drug companies and finding success with alternative medicine. Just today,
there was a five-hour, five-part TV series on alternative medicine
hosted by Bill Moyers. Many of the people involved are well-known
scientists in the modern medical community. I heard today that
Dean Ornish’s alternative medicine program to reverse heart disease
was recently accepted by a major insurance carrier as a legitamite
treatment.
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I don’t plan to wait for
alternative remedies to be proven by the medical community to be
helpful and safe before I use or recommend such remedies.
Attempting to debunk alternative medicine by linking it to astrology
(which many scientists consider laugable at best) may be considered
by many people an insult to their intelligence. Linking alternative
medicine to a field that many people don’t believe in doesn’t prove anything
except that the person doing the linking hasn’t (or can’t) given any
legitamite arguments against studying the viability of alternative
medicine.
>If we get a sci.med.alternative, I’ll feel compelled to propose
>sci.astro.astrology and sci.physics.flat-earth.
How about:
sci.med.close-minded
or
sci.med.if_the_doctor_doesn’t_know_nobody_else_could_possibly_know_either
– Mark
I had very bad motion sickness throughout my childhood and part of my
20′s. This may sound weird, but my motion sickness went away
as soon as I concentrated my alternative healing program on
my stomach, small intestine and large intestine. Many
health practitioners would talk to me about "inner ear imbalances"
or other related things, but the ultimate cure *for me* was to
clean out and improve the health of my stomach and intestines.
If I eat foods that I have trouble digesting for an extended period
of time (i.e., dairy), the motion sickness starts to come back.
Just something to consider.
– Mark
My friend’s grandfather has lung cancer which has spread to
other parts of his body. Doctors have done all they can, so
I suggested maybe he should try alternative healing. Where
do I go to find out more about this?
Also, is Mullein tea good for this? I’ve heard certain kinds of
tea detoxify the body…is this one of them? Recommendations?
Thanks in advance
–
This is Robert Lai’s "Signature File," and the reader is reminded
that ’tis the season to be Jolly – Falla La La La…la la la la.
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If anyone has any information that may help me learn about the following
situation and make a decision, I would be very appreciative if you could email
me, or mail to the list.
I recently had a CT (Computed Tomography, ie: catscan) done on my lumbar
spine (from L1 -> S1) since x-rays show a "rudimentary disc space" between
L5 and S1.
The CT shows that my L5-S1 disc has "slipped" and is impinging on the spinal
cord. This is the apparent cause for pain shooting down my left buttock and
thigh.
The CT also shows that the L4-L5 disc is on its way out, and there is a
"disc fragment" between L5 and the spinal cord. This fragment could have come
from the L5-S1 disc, or it could have come from the L4-L5 disc.
There is an operative procedure that removes the defective L5-S1 disc and
fuses L5-S1. If L4-L5 "slips" as well, such an operation could also be
performed to fuse L4-L5.
The doctor (he’s also an acupuncturist) says not to operate, but to see a
physio and treat the problem "conservatively". He says I’m too young for such
an operation (I’m 27). He is of the opinion that I must avoid all forms of
movement that place strain on the lumbar spine, for the rest of my life.
A friend who is a neurosurgeon looked at the CT and immediately said "you need
an operation". He is of the opinion that after a while I would be able to move
"normally", and need not "watch what I do with my back".
Over the last couple of days the pain has somewhat decreased, and the
L5-S1 and L4-L5 joints have been "cracking" occasionally.
Any information about similar cases and experiences would be very helpful.
Thanks.
P.S. When I feel I have enough information, everyone who responds to my query
will get a transcript of Jonathan’s Brilliant Back Story, and I’ll post
to relevant newsgroups and mailing lists. All people, besides myself,
will remain anonymous.
–
Jonathan Goldstein golds…@nms.otc.com.au +61 2 339 3683
–
Jonathan Goldstein golds…@nms.otc.com.au +61 2 339 3683
Hello, netters
I am considering join American Natural Hygiene Society. Before I do so,
however, I would like to hear from its members about their experiences
with the society, and how do you feel about their publication (Health
Science), etc.
Thank you for your time
Y. Chen
HELP. I was bit by some type of insect on Saturday and my arm is very
swollen, itchy and red. I am also feeling faint, weak and short of
breath. I do not really know what to do, I was never bit by anything
before and my Dr. is on vacation. Please help asap!!
Shari Victor
svic…@pilot.sas.upenn.edu
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In article <24lsn3$…@transfer.stratus.com> t…@sw.stratus.com (Tarl Neustaedter) writes:
>Massive cross-posting modified to follow into one group
>In article <CBs2y6….@newsflash.concordia.ca>, grog…@cs.concordia.ca (Peter Grogono) writes:
>>> scientific medicine vs alternative, astronomy replacing astrology
>> There are several rather doubtful arguments here. Has astronomy "well and truly
>> replaced astrology"? There are more astrologers than astronomers; the best
>As an amateur astronomer, the concept of astrology competing with astronomy
>in today’s world rather takes my breath away.
>But the more I think about it, the analogy with alternative medicine is
>exact, and I thank you for pointing it out to me. It is an analogy I will
>keep in mind for future discussions on alternative medicine. Both astrology
>and alternative medicines are systems of belief which rely on tradition
>rather than investigation, and are unfriendly to objective analysis.
There’s one place where the analogy breaks down–I think that most
astrology is used for entertainment–at least the people I know read
newspaper astrology for amusement, not guidance.
As far as I can tell, some people in alternative medicine welcome
testing, and others don’t.
>Astronomy and Medicine have historical roots in the older "disciplines",
>but have diffentiated themselves by attempting to measure, quantify, explain
>and predict behaviour in their fields of study. This has led them in far
>different directions than they started out from. In both fields (like all
>science), the sole standard of validity is how reliable and accurate the
>predictions are. In the predecessor fields, different standards apply, and
>thus don’t qualify as science.
Also, while there’s some risk involved, I think testing an alternative
remedy on oneself is still testing, even though it isn’t as rigorous
as scientific testing.
>If we get a sci.med.alternative, I’ll feel compelled to propose
>sci.astro.astrology and sci.physics.flat-earth.
If it amuses you, go for it.
–
Nancy Lebovitz calligraphic button catalogue available by email (170K)
na…@genie.slhs.udel.edu
Does anyone know about how can I get some information for
Doctor Fred Hollows because I am going to make a Exhibition about him?
Email: s9018…@cs.unsw.oz.au
Please help!