The September 94 issue of "Homeopathy Today" has an interesting
article on the homeopathic treatment of Lyme disease by Stephen Tobin,
DVM. Here is a brief extract from the article.
"I am a holistic veterinarian in Conneticut and have treated several
hundred cases of Lyme disease in the past five years. After trying
various homeopathic preparations, with only limited success, I found
that Ledum in a 1M potency is about as close as you can get to a
specific cure. I have used it in dogs, cats, and horses, and it does
not seem to matter whether it is a recent infection, a year old,
treated or untreated — they all seem to respond curatively."
"While I do not treat human beings, some of my clients with animals
suffering from Lyme disease have taken Ledum 1M for their own Lyme
disease infections, after seeing the positive result with their
animals. The feedback I have gotten is all positive. I have told
numerous naturopaths and homeopathic MDs about Ledum. One homeopathic
MD runs titers on all his Lyme disease patients, both before and after
treatment with Ledum, and has found there is a constant decline in
titer after Ledum."
For treatment, I give one pellet of Ledum 1M three times a day for
three days."
–
Bernie Simon But then a strange fear gripped me
(bsi…@stsci.edu) and I just couldn’t ask — The Smiths
> For treatment, I give one pellet of Ledum 1M three times a day for
> three days."
How great to find this out! A real lifesaver when you poke your eyeball
accidently, btw.
In article <BSIMON.94Sep9074…@elvis.stsci.edu>, bsi…@stsci.edu (Bernie Simon) writes:
|> The September 94 issue of "Homeopathy Today" has an interesting
|> article on the homeopathic treatment of Lyme disease by Stephen Tobin,
|> DVM. Here is a brief extract from the article.
|>
|> "I am a holistic veterinarian in Conneticut and have treated several
|> hundred cases of Lyme disease in the past five years. After trying
|> various homeopathic preparations, with only limited success, I found
|> that Ledum in a 1M potency is about as close as you can get to a
|> specific cure. I have used it in dogs, cats, and horses, and it does
|> not seem to matter whether it is a recent infection, a year old,
|> treated or untreated — they all seem to respond curatively."
|>
|> "While I do not treat human beings, some of my clients with animals
|> suffering from Lyme disease have taken Ledum 1M for their own Lyme
|> disease infections, after seeing the positive result with their
|> animals. The feedback I have gotten is all positive. I have told
|> numerous naturopaths and homeopathic MDs about Ledum. One homeopathic
|> MD runs titers on all his Lyme disease patients, both before and after
|> treatment with Ledum, and has found there is a constant decline in
|> titer after Ledum."
|>
|> For treatment, I give one pellet of Ledum 1M three times a day for
|> three days."
|>
|> —
|> Bernie Simon But then a strange fear gripped me
|> (bsi…@stsci.edu) and I just couldn’t ask — The Smiths
|>
|>
If it IS SO successful, the vet should do a controlled study and it would
certianly be published in Lancet. I don’t mean to be sarcastic, but if he’s
correct, this would be something that could easily be studied and replicated.
Until such time this kind of work has been done, please PLEASE keep an
open and questioning (skeptical) mind. Personally, I’d first try something
more well-prooven. If for some reason that’s not possible (for example, side
effects are intolerable) then I’d start looking elsewhere. I don’t trust nor
believe case histories. I believe published articles where I can read and
evaluate the experimental protocol, and wait for the letters to the editor.
If this practitioner is honest, he should *seriously* develop a protocol and
publish his results. If he thinks that’s bullshit, then I wouldn’t believe
what he has to say.
In article <35274b$…@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> r…@athena.mit.edu (0000-Admin(0000)) writes:
>In article <BSIMON.94Sep9074…@elvis.stsci.edu>, bsi…@stsci.edu (Bernie Simon) writes:
>|> The September 94 issue of "Homeopathy Today" has an interesting
>|> article on the homeopathic treatment of Lyme disease by Stephen Tobin,
>|> DVM. Here is a brief extract from the article.
>If it IS SO successful, the vet should do a controlled study and it would
>certianly be published in Lancet. I don’t mean to be sarcastic, but if he’s
>correct, this would be something that could easily be studied and replicated.
>Until such time this kind of work has been done, please PLEASE keep an
>open and questioning (skeptical) mind. Personally, I’d first try something
>more well-prooven.
Such as what? Lyme disease is extremely difficult to treat. The only
allopathic treatments available are antibiotics and they don’t work
very well, particularly in advanced Lyme. So what if someone decides
to try homeopathy? Perhaps you are the one who needs to keep an open mind.
And you never did respond to my challenge to cite literature proving
homeopathy can be harmful, as you asserted.
—
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Robert Greenstein What the fool cannot learn he laughs at, thinking
gr…@srilanka.island.com that by his laughter he shows superiority instead
of latent idiocy – M. Corelli
I certainly would like to see a study of homeopathic treatment of Lyme
disease. Saying a study should be done and find the money and other
resources to conduct it are two different things, of course. My
posting on Lyme disease was made for the benefit of those who are
interested in homeopathy and finding out about new treatments, not to
indicate a course of treatment for those who might have Lyme disease.
Do you intend to respond in this manner every time I post a message
about homeopathic treatment of disease?
—
Bernie Simon Homeopathic advice #1:
(bsi…@stsci.edu) Never invite a Silica to take off his shoes
In article <BSIMON.94Sep9074…@elvis.stsci.edu>, bsi…@stsci.edu (Bernie
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Simon) wrote:
> The September 94 issue of "Homeopathy Today" has an interesting
> article on the homeopathic treatment of Lyme disease by Stephen Tobin,
> DVM. Here is a brief extract from the article.
> "I am a holistic veterinarian in Conneticut and have treated several
> hundred cases of Lyme disease in the past five years. After trying
> various homeopathic preparations, with only limited success, I found
> that Ledum in a 1M potency is about as close as you can get to a
> specific cure. I have used it in dogs, cats, and horses, and it does
> not seem to matter whether it is a recent infection, a year old,
> treated or untreated — they all seem to respond curatively."
> "While I do not treat human beings, some of my clients with animals
> suffering from Lyme disease have taken Ledum 1M for their own Lyme
> disease infections, after seeing the positive result with their
> animals. The feedback I have gotten is all positive. I have told
> numerous naturopaths and homeopathic MDs about Ledum. One homeopathic
> MD runs titers on all his Lyme disease patients, both before and after
> treatment with Ledum, and has found there is a constant decline in
> titer after Ledum."
> For treatment, I give one pellet of Ledum 1M three times a day for
> three days."
> —
> Bernie Simon But then a strange fear gripped me
> (bsi…@stsci.edu) and I just couldn’t ask — The Smith
hi bernie,
thankyou for reporting this info re lyme dis-ease. in
the ‘early’ days the homeopaths used to use ledum & hypericum
in high potency to treat nail punctures for tetanus
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In article <tsimpson-130994130…@halifax-ts2-20.nstn.ns.ca>,
tsimp…@fox.nstn.ns.ca (tom simpson) writes:
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Some still do…. 3 months into consitutional…. puncture wound with
red streak up leg. used ledum and hypericum instead of allopathic
medicine….. Red streak stopped. then it shrunk…. 3 months later
walking on beach bare feet
then home a a piece of plastic came out.
In article <tsimpson-130994130…@halifax-ts2-20.nstn.ns.ca>, tsimp…@fox.nstn.ns.ca (tom simpson) says:
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>In article <BSIMON.94Sep9074…@elvis.stsci.edu>, bsi…@stsci.edu (Bernie
>Simon) wrote:
>> The September 94 issue of "Homeopathy Today" has an interesting
>> article on the homeopathic treatment of Lyme disease by Stephen Tobin,
>> DVM. Here is a brief extract from the article.
>> "I am a holistic veterinarian in Conneticut and have treated several
>> hundred cases of Lyme disease in the past five years. After trying
>> various homeopathic preparations, with only limited success, I found
>> that Ledum in a 1M potency is about as close as you can get to a
>> specific cure. I have used it in dogs, cats, and horses, and it does
>> not seem to matter whether it is a recent infection, a year old,
>> treated or untreated — they all seem to respond curatively."
>> "While I do not treat human beings, some of my clients with animals
>> suffering from Lyme disease have taken Ledum 1M for their own Lyme
>> disease infections, after seeing the positive result with their
>> animals. The feedback I have gotten is all positive. I have told
>> numerous naturopaths and homeopathic MDs about Ledum. One homeopathic
>> MD runs titers on all his Lyme disease patients, both before and after
>> treatment with Ledum, and has found there is a constant decline in
>> titer after Ledum."
The decline in titre (presumably of the lyme disease parasites) could be due
to a normal, healthy immune system.
The lyme disease parasite is not adapted to living in humans, thus it has only
the normal spirochaete anti-immune system defences, and lacks the species
specific defences and adaptations that specialist parasites have.
Thus, in lyme disease, it is spirochaete versus immune system. You’d expect
a decline as the immune system gets better and better at attacking the parasite.
I would ask the vet. if he has tried testing the titre of patients treated with a
placebo, or with plain water, or not treated at all. It could well be that all he
is doing in humans is entertaining the patient while the immune system does
the real work.
Dan H.