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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;In article &lt;Cvs69J....@spdcc.com&gt; d...@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;In article &lt;33tkcd$...@gv-gate.gvg.tek.com&gt;, &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Scott A. Matheson &lt;s...@gold.gvg.tek.com&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; I was wondering if anyone could provide me with info regarding h2o2 or &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; Colloidal Silver Therapy, or what their oppinions are on these two &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; substances? &lt;br /&gt; &gt;H2O2 liberates nascent oxygen at the site of application because of the &lt;br /&gt; &gt;ubiquitous enzyme catalase, whose job it is to decompose H2O2 to &lt;br /&gt; &gt;oxygen. &#160;The free oxygen is what kills the bacteria. &#160;Peroxide&#039;s &lt;br /&gt; &gt;antibacterial action is weak and short-lived. &#160;Colloidal silver is a &lt;br /&gt; &gt;silver-protein complex which liberates silver ions at the site of &lt;br /&gt; &gt;application, which then exhibit an antibacterial effect. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;For most minor scratches or scrapes, all that&#039;s really needed is a good &lt;br /&gt; &gt;cleansing with soap and water, with perhaps a bandage if necessary. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;H2O2 is very good at rapidly clotting blood in heavily bleeding &lt;br /&gt; injuries. The blood effervesces and clots almost immediately. &#160;I used &lt;br /&gt; to use it only for this reason until a doctor told me that it produced &lt;br /&gt; a lot free radical damage at the wound site, and should not be used &lt;br /&gt; casually. &lt;br /&gt; -- &lt;br /&gt; Chris Malcolm &#160; &#160;c...@uk.ac.ed.aifh &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;+44 (0)31 650 3085 &lt;br /&gt; Department of Artificial Intelligence, &#160; &#160;Edinburgh University &lt;br /&gt; 5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;DoD #205 &lt;br /&gt; &quot;The mind reigns, but does not govern&quot; -- Paul Valery &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;Cvs69J&#8230;.@spdcc.com&gt; <a href="mailto:d...@spdcc.com">d&#8230;@spdcc.com</a> (Steve Dyer) writes: <br /> &gt;In article &lt;33tkcd$&#8230;@gv-gate.gvg.tek.com&gt;, <br /> &gt;Scott A. Matheson &lt;s&#8230;@gold.gvg.tek.com&gt; wrote: <br /> &gt;&gt; I was wondering if anyone could provide me with info regarding h2o2 or <br /> &gt;&gt; Colloidal Silver Therapy, or what their oppinions are on these two <br /> &gt;&gt; substances? <br /> &gt;H2O2 liberates nascent oxygen at the site of application because of the <br /> &gt;ubiquitous enzyme catalase, whose job it is to decompose H2O2 to <br /> &gt;oxygen. &nbsp;The free oxygen is what kills the bacteria. &nbsp;Peroxide&#8217;s <br /> &gt;antibacterial action is weak and short-lived. &nbsp;Colloidal silver is a <br /> &gt;silver-protein complex which liberates silver ions at the site of <br /> &gt;application, which then exhibit an antibacterial effect. <br /> &gt;For most minor scratches or scrapes, all that&#8217;s really needed is a good <br /> &gt;cleansing with soap and water, with perhaps a bandage if necessary. </p>
<p>H2O2 is very good at rapidly clotting blood in heavily bleeding <br /> injuries. The blood effervesces and clots almost immediately. &nbsp;I used <br /> to use it only for this reason until a doctor told me that it produced <br /> a lot free radical damage at the wound site, and should not be used <br /> casually. <br /> &#8212; <br /> Chris Malcolm &nbsp; &nbsp;c&#8230;@uk.ac.ed.aifh &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;+44 (0)31 650 3085 <br /> Department of Artificial Intelligence, &nbsp; &nbsp;Edinburgh University <br /> 5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;DoD #205 <br /> &quot;The mind reigns, but does not govern&quot; &#8212; Paul Valery </p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article &lt;33tkcd$...@gv-gate.gvg.tek.com&gt;, &lt;br /&gt; Scott A. Matheson &lt;s...@gold.gvg.tek.com&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; I was wondering if anyone could provide me with info regarding h2o2 or &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Colloidal Silver Therapy, or what their oppinions are on these two &lt;br /&gt; &gt; substances? &#160;I have read an articles on both of these and they sound &lt;br /&gt; &gt; very promising I thought I Could maybe get a 2nd 3rd or ? opinion from &lt;br /&gt; &gt; the subscribers of this group &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Both are obsolete topical antiseptics (I assume that&#039;s the use &lt;br /&gt; you&#039;re talking about, since you mention both of them in the &lt;br /&gt; same breath.) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;H2O2 liberates nascent oxygen at the site of application because of the &lt;br /&gt; ubiquitous enzyme catalase, whose job it is to decompose H2O2 to &lt;br /&gt; oxygen. &#160;The free oxygen is what kills the bacteria. &#160;Peroxide&#039;s &lt;br /&gt; antibacterial action is weak and short-lived. &#160;Colloidal silver is a &lt;br /&gt; silver-protein complex which liberates silver ions at the site of &lt;br /&gt; application, which then exhibit an antibacterial effect. &#160;&quot;Weak silver &lt;br /&gt; compound&quot; has a higher concentration of Ag++ ions than &quot;strong silver &lt;br /&gt; compound&quot;, and can also irritate tissues. &#160;There&#039;s nothing all that &lt;br /&gt; special about either of these; they were popular before the advent of &lt;br /&gt; other antiseptics and antibiotics. &#160;Colloidal silver, when used to &lt;br /&gt; excess as an eye wash, gargle, douche or nasal spray (senseless &lt;br /&gt; applications which have little rational basis) can over a period of &lt;br /&gt; months cause a condition known as argyria, in which elemental silver is &lt;br /&gt; deposited into the skin, giving it a grayish cast which is more or less &lt;br /&gt; permanent, depending on how lucky or unlucky you are. &#160;Actually taking &lt;br /&gt; the stuff internally would accelerate this (I have no idea what these &lt;br /&gt; gnuage hucksters who are pushing it these days are actually &lt;br /&gt; recommending.) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For most minor scratches or scrapes, all that&#039;s really needed is a good &lt;br /&gt; cleansing with soap and water, with perhaps a bandage if necessary. &lt;br /&gt; If it gets infected, you should see a medical doctor. &lt;br /&gt; -- &lt;br /&gt; Steve Dyer &lt;br /&gt; d...@ursa-major.spdcc.com &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;33tkcd$&#8230;@gv-gate.gvg.tek.com&gt;, <br /> Scott A. Matheson &lt;s&#8230;@gold.gvg.tek.com&gt; wrote: <br /> 
<p>&gt; I was wondering if anyone could provide me with info regarding h2o2 or <br /> &gt; Colloidal Silver Therapy, or what their oppinions are on these two <br /> &gt; substances? &nbsp;I have read an articles on both of these and they sound <br /> &gt; very promising I thought I Could maybe get a 2nd 3rd or ? opinion from <br /> &gt; the subscribers of this group </p>
<p>Both are obsolete topical antiseptics (I assume that&#8217;s the use <br /> you&#8217;re talking about, since you mention both of them in the <br /> same breath.)  </p>
<p>H2O2 liberates nascent oxygen at the site of application because of the <br /> ubiquitous enzyme catalase, whose job it is to decompose H2O2 to <br /> oxygen. &nbsp;The free oxygen is what kills the bacteria. &nbsp;Peroxide&#8217;s <br /> antibacterial action is weak and short-lived. &nbsp;Colloidal silver is a <br /> silver-protein complex which liberates silver ions at the site of <br /> application, which then exhibit an antibacterial effect. &nbsp;&quot;Weak silver <br /> compound&quot; has a higher concentration of Ag++ ions than &quot;strong silver <br /> compound&quot;, and can also irritate tissues. &nbsp;There&#8217;s nothing all that <br /> special about either of these; they were popular before the advent of <br /> other antiseptics and antibiotics. &nbsp;Colloidal silver, when used to <br /> excess as an eye wash, gargle, douche or nasal spray (senseless <br /> applications which have little rational basis) can over a period of <br /> months cause a condition known as argyria, in which elemental silver is <br /> deposited into the skin, giving it a grayish cast which is more or less <br /> permanent, depending on how lucky or unlucky you are. &nbsp;Actually taking <br /> the stuff internally would accelerate this (I have no idea what these <br /> gnuage hucksters who are pushing it these days are actually <br /> recommending.)  </p>
<p>For most minor scratches or scrapes, all that&#8217;s really needed is a good <br /> cleansing with soap and water, with perhaps a bandage if necessary. <br /> If it gets infected, you should see a medical doctor. <br /> &#8212; <br /> Steve Dyer <br /> <a href="mailto:d...@ursa-major.spdcc.com">d&#8230;@ursa-major.spdcc.com</a> </p>
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