natural ulcer treatments needed / FASTING

jaso…@csd4.csd.uwm.edu wrote in a message to All:

jcue> I am looking for any recommendations anyone has on treating
jcue> ulcers naturally.  I am currently on Zantac twice daily and
jcue> would like to treat my symptoms more holistically.

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jcue> appetite despite the pain.  I have eliminated caffeine,
jcue> alcohol, citrus, tomato and other acidic products but it
jcue> hasn’t seemed to have helped.

How about eliminating all of it and go on a fast.  Maybe just a fruit juice
fast (real fruit juice, fresh squeezed).  There is very little to be
concerned about with a duration of 3-7 days… but longer than that should be
well thought out.

I was was incapasitated by internal problems 15 years ago and did a 21 day
water fast with 2 week fruit, 2 week fruit juice intro period and 1 week
juice/fruit coming out.  I also had two colonics to make sure the toxins were
being flushed.

Fasting is the best cure for just about anything that requires a
reconfiguration of your system.  It is a little scary and the food cravings
are as bad as nicotine withdrawal … but they actually pass after a few
days.  I’d read Dick Gregory’s book on fasting as a primer … and be
prepared to loose some weight. I went from 175 to 140 over those 5 or so
weeks.

The two main concerns are; released toxin build up and
reintroducing food to your intestinal bacteria after they have been asleep
for a few weeks.  A couple of days of filtered juice will wake them up enough
to allow digestion again.

Scott Parks,
spa…@helix.eskimo.com

4 Responses to “natural ulcer treatments needed / FASTING”

  1. admin says:

    jaso…@csd4.csd.uwm.edu wrote in a message to All:

    > I am looking for any recommendations anyone has on treating
    > ulcers naturally.  I am currently on Zantac twice daily and
    > would like to treat my symptoms more holistically.

    Look.  I like to go natural when at all possible, but the cat is out
    of the bag.

    Most ulcers are probably caused by a bacterial infection.  The
    culprit is know as H. Pylorii.  That’s why about 85% of patients
    ‘cured’ by h2 blockers like Zantac or Tagamet will relapse.  But
    those who have been treated with antibiotics have about a 15% relapse
    rate.

    Now you can go on forcing back the symptons and maybe feeling good,
    but when you stop, they’ll come back.  There is a possibility that
    leaving this bacteria in your gut all you like can cause stomach
    cancer.

    The discovery is so new that many doctors don’t acknowledge it… But
    its true.

    The currently used therapy is to take:

       tetracycline 500 mg 4 times per day
       Flagyl (yeah, Flagyl) 250 to 500 mg 3 times per day
       Pepto-Bismol 5 to 6 times per day (I think)

    Do this for fourteen days.

    I don’t know where you’re located, but here in southern California,
    we can just drive over to Tijuana, buy the meds at the border, and
    bring them back legally.

    Make sure to read the owners’ manual with each medication.

    Best

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  2. admin says:

    I usually just read the stuff in this newsgroup and say, "hmmm" (in a good
    way), but reading the suggestions for this person with chronic ulcer
    problems has prompted me to do a big, "uh oh."  Fasting, and even
    antibiotics, are both iffy solutions to a serious problem, and may in fact
    exacerbate the problem and add some new acute symptoms (hunger and a
    serious deficiency of T-cells among them).  I’d suggest a much less
    drastic, and quite well-proven, remedy.  See an oriental medical doctor or
    acupuncturist.  As a student of oriental medicine, I have yet to see a
    patient not completely recover from ulcers (chronic or acute) within a
    month of treatment.  Yeah, I’d be the first to admit that oriental
    medicine is not the end-all health maintenance solution for any problem
    (as many of my colleagues believe it is), but this is one area where
    oriental medical practice has really left its mark.  

  3. admin says:

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    In article <RO0Ujuti0jM805…@kaiwan.com> Dennis Hilton writes:

    > jaso…@csd4.csd.uwm.edu wrote in a message to All:

    > > I am looking for any recommendations anyone has on treating
    > > ulcers naturally.  I am currently on Zantac twice daily and
    > > would like to treat my symptoms more holistically.

    > Look.  I like to go natural when at all possible, but the cat is out
    > of the bag.

    > Most ulcers are probably caused by a bacterial infection.  The
    > culprit is know as H. Pylorii.  That’s why about 85% of patients
    > ‘cured’ by h2 blockers like Zantac or Tagamet will relapse.  But
    > those who have been treated with antibiotics have about a 15% relapse
    > rate.

    I know a lot has been written about this but in my case mine was not
    bacterial.  I had a chronic duodenal ulcer from the age 10 to 25.  By
    that time I was very ill and nearly collapsed.  Working in the NHS gave
    me an edge and I was diagnosed quickly.  Placed on Cimetidine (Tagamet)
    and after 2 years eventually came off it (this was difficult).

    Long term treatment was mainly dietary: low sugar, no alcohol,
    no caffeine (tea – coffee), no white flour products or spicy foods.  The
    classical ulcer diet.  Eat small amounts frequently rather that more
    less often.  Stress also plays a part and there is evidence that
    ulcer-types tend to internalize stress.  I also came off dairy produce
    as allergic to cow.  Red meats also overstress the digestion as require
    a lot of acid, so avoided these as well.  (Still can’t tolerate very
    well.)

    Now, at 38, ulcer completely healed (endoscopic investigation).  
    Cimetidine helped initially, but I think the long term dietary approach
    was very effective together with acupuncture, homeopathy.

    P.S. Fasting made me ill, I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone with
    gastric/duodenal ulcers unless under the strict supervision of a medical
    doctor or alternative practitioner.

    Regards,
    James Roche
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  4. admin says:

    licorice tea…. real thick n heavy… the chinese type licorice cut into
    thick chips… you can also chew on a chip… i always keep some around for
    stomach heartburn… i swear by the stuff…

    …x

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